Wednesday, August 2, 2017

Devan's July 13th Lunchtime talk from ACIM Gather is entitled "I Need Do Nothing?" In this posting I will write my reactions to the first section of this talk, which goes to about the 9 minute mark.

5:07 ...We're gonna make sure that we're
5:09 talking about the right dimensional
5:12 perspective. And that's what the levels
5:13 are usually referring to. So you have
5:16 this split mind idea, right? This is the
5:20 difference between the first dimension
5:22 the Christ Consciousness, awakened to
5:25 itself, knowing everything, and creating
5:27 all the reality - and the same
5:29 consciousness dimensional realm...


I get the Christ Consciousness being the 1st dimension. One step away from the Zeroeth Dimension (which containeth everything :), is the 1st dimension. It is the barest separation of all. It is the tiniest step along the number line away from the Point that contains everything, but that can't know itself. (But you can also go an infinite distance along that line. I don't know if the entire line is Christ Consciousness, or just the first Planck length away from no dimensions).

5:32 the fourth dimension in which on the
5:35 other side doesn't know anything and is
5:37 learning and receiving knowledge of the
5:39 world. And is in this improper perception,
5:43 this ego thing that only a believes
5:46 itself in time. So the difference between
5:49 the two is considered proper perception
5:53 and improper perception.


Somehow we jump to the 4rth dimension here, which is the ordinary space-time we all inhabit, as naive humans, Einstein-inspired physicists, and spiritual teachers. I don't get this "jump", but I continue listening for more clues.

Now they look
5:57 onto the holographic elements of the
5:59 universe and see different things. So the
6:02 second dimension is the first
6:05 representation of seeing the pure love
6:08 of the spiritual universe. All right? 


No, not all right. Why is the _2nd_ dimension "the first representation of seeing the pure love"? What is the difference between the tiny separation of Christ Consciousness, and the second dimension? Doesn't Christ Consciousness see itself? In what way is the second dimension different from that?

So
6:11 that is a perspective of Christ that
6:14 perceives in proper perception the pure
6:17 love existence of the universe. Saying
6:20 that it's all naturally connected and
6:22 all all the particles are moving
6:24 together
6:25 and it is quite literally represented
6:28 the movement and emanation of energy.
6:30 This is light and sound. So the improper
6:34 perception of the fourth dimension, which
6:36 is considered time, looks at the third
6:40 dimension it looks at that same
6:42 holographic universe and sees
6:44 physicality
6:46 this is objects and shapes and sizes and
6:49 bodies so when of course the Miracles is
6:52 referring to bodies it's usually
6:55 referring to this third dimensional
6:57 perspective that is quite literally
7:00 joined and united with the fourth
7:02 dimensional perspective.


I get that our experience is movement and emanation of energy, light and sound. I would add bodily sensation, which is energy, but maybe some energy other than light and sound. I don't get how the 4rth dimension is looking at the 3rd, and how the 4rth and 3rd are joined.

One is in
7:06 consciousness and one seems to be where
7:09 consciousness resides, like your mind in
7:12 your body which is just silly.


So the 4rth dimension is consciousness, and the 3rd is where consciousness resides?

So this is
7:19 just the clarification of this first
7:21 era of existence, with our... as far as
7:24 this universe on this trial period of
7:27 purifying this new idea, this idea which
7:30 we mostly comprehend as separation but...
7:33 be sure to understand that each of these
7:36 ten dimensions of reality are
7:39 paradoxical to the others.


Each dimension is paradoxical to the others, like this question: Here I am in 3 dimensional space, and someone tells me there is another dimension. I ask them to point at it. "Show me the direction to travel in the new dimension." They can't point in that direction. They say, "Well, it is time." I can follow the direction of time only in my mind or experience.

That they
7:42 somehow have a different variation of
7:45 different laws and different
7:47 understanding. Just like to give an
7:50 object in the third dimensional world is
7:52 to no longer have it yourself and then
7:56 the other person possesses it. This is
7:58 where the ego's perception is, often. But
8:02 then in the _mind_, in the consciousness
8:04 field, to give a something that that mind
8:08 could have, is a _thought_, and it is only
8:11 expanded or grows by giving it. You don't
8:15 lose what the consciousness owns and the
8:18 same thing with that proper perception
8:20 of the representation of the spiritual
8:22 universe, that in the energetic field
8:25 also it is only expanded because it
8:28 represents that proper perception of
8:31 consciousness. So, if you can hear
8:35 kind of what I'm saying, that it all
8:36 revolves
8:37 around the consciousness's perspective.


So the difference between the 3rd and 4rth dimensions is that in the 4rth dimension, it is clear to my mind that past and future are non-physical concepts, and to give a concept is not to lose it, but to spread it.

8:40 That's why A Course In Miracles is a
8:42 mind training program. As far as where it
8:45 sits in (inaudible) the ten dimensions of
8:48 reality is the fourth dimension learning
8:52 how to become what it actually is
8:54 breaking that split in the between the
8:57 mind and the barrier there, to open up to
9:00 the actual reality of representing
9:03 itself in the fifth dimension - again the
9:06 same spiritual realm as the second
9:08 dimension. So you start having these
9:11 spiritual experiences of recognizing and
9:14 knowing everyone and of seeing this
9:17 unity and all this great wonderful
9:19 amazing stuff but it is quite literally
9:23 only the fifth I mentioned on among 10


The 5th dimension is where the 4rth dimension can be taken as a point, and an line, and get curved all around, and wonderful things can happen.

Yeah, uh-huh, bring it on. That's where we want to be. But that is only the beginning, you are saying.

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